Steel machines with wings that fly? Crazy!

I learned something new today. Apparently, because I have a hard time accepting proposition without evidence as truth, I am to be considered “mentally ill”. That’s right, according to user bwinwright on AllVoices.com, all those attention seeking atheists out there are clinically insane, and deliberately trolling and taunting them is, I quote:

[...] like throwing holy water on Satan. It’s fun!

Apparently, this isn’t even really about God per se, but rather the fact that “intelligent direction” is absolutely evident and mandatory at all times, in all cases. The atheists refusal to agree with this is, naturally, enough to declare us “mentally ill”.

Now, admittedly I’m not a psychiatrist, but then again I’m pretty sure bwinwright isn’t one either, so we’re pretty much on equal grounds here. I think he has just as much credential to diagnose anyone as I do, that is none whatsoever. Remembering this, it’s very hard to take him seriously.

Further, according to him, “the one thing I do know is that ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. It is really nothing more than common sense” (his emphasis). So then I suppose it is totally acceptable to scrap all the scheduled space flights, cancel all the regular flights and put all the boats on dry land. You know, because common sense dictates that only birds can fly, nothing can live in space and heavy boats made out of metal should sink like stones. This is the kind of common sense that he wants us to live by. Unquestioning, wilfully ignorant common sense.

Unlike bwinwright, I like to question things, even that which is considered common sense. If people hadn’t questioned that, we wouldn’t have planes, boats and space rockets today. We would be stuck in our caves or mud huts, amazed at the gathering storm but utterly convinced by common sense that nothing could make fire except lightning striking the earth. In reality, even bwinwright questions a lot of things that are common sense. Just not the one thing that we have tons and tons of evidence against. He’s convinced that this one thing, this intelligent director, simply has to exist no matter what. It won’t matter to him how much evidence we give for purely natural phenomena, it won’t matter how many things we are able to explain in detail. He is utterly attached to, and dependent on, the idea of a “higher power” in the form of a theistic deity that directs and produces everything in existence. Despite all common sense, he believes this being actually exists.

I’m left to wonder which one of us fits the description of “mentally ill” best. Certainly, believing that something exists that you’ve never seen, heard, touched or smelled, that no instrument could ever measure or probe, that no other natural element is ever effected by and that is not even strictly necessary to explain anything anymore could be considered delusional, something which is very much a sign of actual mental illness. But then again, I’m not a psychiatrist, so that diagnosis isn’t mine to make.

    • bwinwright
    • June 22nd, 2009

    Try to look at yourself from a third person point of view. You’re clearly seeking attention.

    • JesusLover
    • June 22nd, 2009

    Oh my, look at the cute little atheist seeking for attention.

  1. @bwinwright

    I am absolutely seeking attention, but not because I’m an atheist. I seek attention for my regular blog, just as I seek attention for my Fairuza Balk fansite. However, it is still quite a far stretch between wanting attention and wanting it so much you are classified “mentally ill”.

    How about you address my points instead, maybe that way I could take you seriously?

  2. Wow, it sure sounds like Bill O’Reilly, just spinning the Hell out of what bwinwright actually said. Can he give ANY example of ORDERLINESS that DID NOT require intelligent direction? Of course not. Why? Because he is an atheist, therefore insane. He believes a tornado can blow through a junkyard and leave behind a newly assembled automobile. This IS the insanity bwinwright speaks about.

  3. @Bruce
    If that’s what you think atheists believe, then I can’t possibly have an intelligent, rational discussion about this with you, now can I? If instead of telling other people what they believe, you simply ask them, you might actually learn something in the process as well.

    Also, atheist =/= evolutionist. The two have nothing whatsoever to do with eachother, and to conflate them is to draw a cheap straw man to attack; a cowardly practice.

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